[timbou]

Mul on selline graafikakaart nagu ATI Radeon 9800 128MB... varem oli kõik nagu super, kuid mingist hetkest alates hakkas jama pihta. Probleem esineb ainult mängude puhul. Filme saab vaadata probleemideta ja muude tegevuste puhul pole ka esinenud ...vaid just MÄNGUD. Probleem järgmine: Kui mäng käima panna on kõik OK, kuid mingi aja jooksul (ka mängu kiirenemisel) hakkavad ekraanil tekkima mingid sädelevad (vilkuvad vms) kriipsud või/ja kastid... mis sõna otseses mõttes paljunevad... alguses on märgata mõnesid üksikuid, kuid lõpuks sädeleb kogu ekraan ning arvuti teeb restarti või siis jookseb kinni. Üritasin ka sellest vaatemängust screenshot teha, kuid millegi pärast jääb screenshotile täiesti puhas pilt :S Ja nagu mainitud see on mängude puhul ainult nii... ja varem pole seda olnud. Ja see on absoluutselt iga mänguga. Olen teinud ka korduvalt Format C-sid ning installinud kõige uuemad draiveri ja muud vajalikud asjad... Windows on originaal... äkki oskab keegi nõu anda? kas asi on üldse graafikakaaris?

[Mihkel.]

Graafikakaart hakkab vedrut välja viskama.

[ceemic]

võimalik, et tegu võib kuumenemisega olla..mis tempe see kaart näitab? jahutus on korralik? kontrolli jahutuse kontakti corega!

[timbou]

On selline võimalus ? Tra siis panen küll molli nendele tegijate... omal ajal ootasin seda kaarti kuu aega...sest eestis seda polnud ja see tuli soomest ja nüüd hakkab vedrusid välja viskama



Kuidas see Corega asi käib muidu ?

[Mihkel.]

Uuri ennem ceemic pakutud varianti ka. Näiteks rivatuneriga paned selle graafilise temp värgi näitama ja vaatad kõrgele läheb kui täpid tekkima hakkavad.

[timbou]

[Mask]

arvan ka et vb ülekuumenemine, mul midagi sarnast olnud...

[sleepyhead]

niikuinii radikas tolmu täis, nagu vanaema pööning ....või veel ullem...ventilaator on tolmu kätte kinni kiilund ....

[Mihkel.]

[timbou]

$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Northbridge information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0400000000 Description : NVIDIA nForce2
$0400000001 Vendor ID : 10de (NVIDIA)
$0400000002 Device ID : 01e0
$0400000003 AGP bus : revision 3.0
$0400000004 AGP status : enabled
$0400000005 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0400000006 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0400000007 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Northbridge PCI configuration space
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff +00+01+02+03+04+05+06+07+08+09+0a+0b+0c+0d+0e+0f
$0500000000 +00 de 10 e0 01 06 00 b0 00 c1 00 00 06 00 00 80 00
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$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description : RADEON 9800 PRO
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 1002 (ATI)
$0000000002 Device ID : 4e48
$0000000003 Location : bus 2, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 3.0
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$0000000006 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0000000007 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0000000008 AGP FW : supported, enabled
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$000000000a Base address 1 : 0000c000 (I/O range)
$000000000b Base address 2 : e9000000 (memory range)
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$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Display adapter PCI configuration space
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
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$ffffffffff IDirect3D7 HAL capabilities
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
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$060000002b StippleWidth : 00000000
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$ffffffffff TriCaps
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$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff OpenGL driver information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0f00000000 Vendor : ATI Technologies Inc.
$0f00000001 Renderer : RADEON 9800 Pro x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE
$0f00000002 Version : 2.0.4955 WinXP Release
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff OpenGL driver extensions
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
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$109b316ccd GL_EXT_VERTEX_SHADER
$10e1eeeff7 GL_HP_OCCLUSION_TEST
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$10c9acb315 WGL_EXT_SWAP_CONTROL
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff ATI specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0900000000 Graphics core : R350 (8x1)
$0900000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0900000001 Memory type : DDR SGRAM / SDRAM
$0900000003 Memory amount : 128MB
$0900000004 Core clock : 378.000MHz
$0900000005 Memory clock : 337.500MHz (675.000MHz effective)
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$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Memory timings
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0900000100 WR latency : 1.5
$0900000101 CAS latency : 4
$0900000102 CMD latency : 0.0
$0900000103 STR latency : 1.5
$0900000110 tRCDRD,RAS to CAS read : 5
$0900000111 tRCDWR,RAS to CAS write : 3
$0900000112 tRP ,Row precharge : 5
$0900000113 tRAS ,Row active : 10
$0900000114 tRRD ,Row active to row active command : 4
$0900000115 tR2W ,Read to write turnaround : 7
$0900000116 tWR ,Write recovery : 3
$0900000117 TW2R ,Write to read turnaround : 2
$0900000118 tW2R ,Write to read turnaround / same bank : 3
$0900000119 tR2R ,Read to read turnaround : 2
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff ATI VGA BIOS information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0a00000000 Title : R360 Hynix DDR 113-A07537-103 BIOS
$0a00000001 Date/time : 2004/03/04 09:51
$0a00000002 Core clock : 378.000MHz
$0a00000003 Memory clock : 338.000MHz
$0a00000004 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
$0a00000005 Dot clock range : 200.000MHz - 400.000MHz
$0a00000006 System clock range : 300.000MHz - 800.000MHz
$0a00000007 Memory clock range : 300.000MHz - 800.000MHz
$0a00000008 Memory type : DDR SDRAM / SGRAM
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff ATI graphics processor registers
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0b0100000a M_SPLL_REF_FB_DIV : 01383204
$0b0100000c SPLL_CNTL : 0400bc30
$0b0100000d SCLK_CNTL : 00df8002
$0b0100000e MPLL_CNTL : 0402bc00
$0b01000012 MCLK_CNTL : aa021212
$0b000000e0 CONFIG_CNTL : 00020100
$0b000000e4 CONFIG_XSTRAP : 30c100a0
$0b000000e8 CONFIG_XSTRAP2 : 00000000
$0b000000f8 CONFIG_MEMSIZE : 08000000
$0b00000140 MC_CNTL : 00000022
$0b00000144 MC_TIMING_CNTL : 1a29a222
$0b00000158 MC_SDRAM_MODE_REG : 30430042
$0b00000178 MC_REFRESH_CNTL : 00004029
$0b00000990 CONFIG_DIE_FUSES : 00000000
$0b00000994 CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES : 00000000
$0b00000998 CONFIG_REGISTER_FUSES : 00000000
$0b0000099c CONFIG_ROM_FUSES : 00000000
$0b00004018 GB_TILE_CONFIG : 00000017
$0b0000402c GB_PIPE_SELECT : aff439fe
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Monitor EDID
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff +00+01+02+03+04+05+06+07+08+09+0a+0b+0c+0d+0e+0f
$0c00000000 +00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 4c 2d 56 11 37 31 46 44
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$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Monitor EDID details
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0d00000000 EDID version : 1.2
$0d00000001 Manufacturer ID : SAM (Samsung)
$0d00000002 Model ID : 1156 (S/M 755DF)
$0d00000003 Manufactured on : 2001, week 1
$0d00000004 Serial number : 44463137
$0d00000005 Input signal : analog
$0d00000006 Screen size : 32 x 24 cm
$0d00000007 Horizontal freqency : 30-85 KHz
$0d00000008 Vertical freqency : 50-160 Hz

[Mihkel.]

Mis sa nüüd tegid?

Neid meil nagu eriti vaja pole.

Rivatuneris seal esimesel lehel, on kaks noolt. Kummagi all on selline asi nagu "hardware monitor", siis tuleb sul see tabel ette ja core temp on see mis sul vaja on.

[Aix]

kas mitte Radeon9800-del ei olnud temperatuurisensorit?
sellisel juhul aitab vana hea "NäppVastaRadikat" meetod

[timbou]

ma ei saanud aru kas just sellel radeonil on temperatuuri mõõdik... aga rääggitakse terve aeg 9800 seeria uutest temperatuuri anduritest...võibolla siis uuematel :S kuid ma ma ei näe rivatuuneril kuskil neid "noolekesi" ...

[Mihkel.]

timbou, http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9286/untitled9kr.png

[drugme84]

mul 6600gt sama jama vist
https://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?t=241189

[timbou]

[drugme84]

vahetasin mobo ära ja nüüd endal kõik ok

[timbou]

[weasel]

Mobo on emaplaat.

[riaak]

[timbou]

OK... kui seda on vigastatud, sisi ajan süü ordi meeste peale, sest nemad paigaldasid selle cooleri

[korndog412]

timbou, mis mobo on? 9800 ei saa hästi läbi ViA chippidega, äkki slles point.

[timbou]

Moboks on mul Abit NF7-S v. 2.0 .... Aga ma ei usu millegi pärast, et emakas asi, sest varem töötasid kõik mängud

Igastahes panin video ka ülesse... seal üritan käivatada Need for speed most wanted, kuid kokkujooksmine on sama iga mänguga (proovinud Hitman 3, Underground 2) http://timbou.msn.ee/viga.MPG

[korndog412]

huuuvitav... mis klõpsud need lõpupoole on

tundub nüüd ka mulle, et läbi on kaart (või on kuumusega midagi väga valesti)

soovitaks mõnele sõbrale välja teha ja tema arvutis proovida kui saab...

[timbou]

kuumusega ei saa ju midagi olla... ostsin uue super kõva kuuleri